Re: Delivered-To or Envelope-To header ...

From: Phil Chambers (no email)
Date: Tue Jan 02 2007 - 12:12:09 EST

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    On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 12:00:16 +0100 (CET) Christian Kratzer <>
    wrote:

    > On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Phil Chambers wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:17:49 -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" <> wrote:
    > >
    > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
    > >> Hash: SHA1
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Is it possible to add this where delivery method is lmtp? I have one person
    > >> requesting it, and am not finding anything particularly useful on the subject
    > >> ...
    > >>
    > >> Mainly, what they are looking at is where UserA is aliased to UserB, but they
    > >> want to know that the original was sent to UserA for 'sub-filtering' purposes
    > >> ...
    > >>
    > >> I'm using Postfix in front of cyrus imapd .. and v2.3.x of Cyrus IMAPd ...
    > >>
    > >
    > > If a message has been delivered to B because A is in the To: or Cc: then you
    > > don't need any extra header lines because you can see it in the To: and Cc:.
    >
    > a message is delivery solely by what is in the envelope. The headers
    > are irrelevant to mail routing.

    I never claimed otherwise! Marc was talking about adding a header for a filter
    to use. I was pointing out that the information was already in the header in a
    particular case.

    >
    > > If the message was delivered to multiple recipients because of Bcc: or because
    > > of a list (Postfix can't tell the difference) then you are snookered as far as
    > > I can see.
    >
    > of course postfix can tell the difference. It has the envelope
    > information. If it did not have the envelope data it could not
    > deliver the message anywhere.

    You missed my point! Postfix cannot tell whether it received a message because
    of earlier expansion of a list or because of a Bcc: recipient. My point was
    that you would not want to have a header which disclosed all recipients because
    that would break the Bcc: privacy.

    I agree that the alternative of producing seperate copies for each individual
    user does not seem like a desirable solution either.

    Phil.
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    Phil Chambers ()
    University of Exeter

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