From: Craig White (no email)
Date: Thu Mar 03 2005 - 02:53:03 EST
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 00:04 -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote:
> Nothing like following-up to your own posts.
>
> The consensus of the private emails I've received is that some people
> opt not to utilize Sieve, based upon the lack of documentation.
>
> I find that surprising, but I've not found much to speak of yet -
> anyone? Or do we just use procmail as the mailer ;-)
--- your sarcasm notwithstanding - if I recall correctly, you asked about conversion of procmail to sieve and the only thing I saw was some scripts included with the distribution which appeared to be from Andrew Morgan - I have seen it referenced on the cmu.edu site for cyrus-imapd as well. They didn't work out of the box for me and I could have hacked at it for my needs but I only had about 40 procmail scripts and that didn't seem to be worth the effort - especially since I didn't understand the process. I think if you check out sieveshell, you will see that you can easily type up sieve scripts with your favorite text editor and import them and activate with sieveshell pretty easily. This provides the extra measure that you understand the sieve structure. There is also the websieve project and I have been using horde/ingo. Horde/ingo and websieve are generally userlevel stuff - but with some thoughtful manipulation, you can probably create the base stuff and apply it to other users. What I ended up doing is creating a basic sieve script - mostly to handle headers tagged with Spam-Status = Yes and move them to another imap box, loaded it, which created the bytecode file and then used autocreate features to load it automatically for each new user. Then I created the users mailboxes. I also have a basic set of rules (in essence duplicating the same thing) in horde/ingo so if a user decides to use the whitelisting/blacklisting/vacation stuff in ingo, the spam tag rules will still be there. On casual inspection, it appears that not all of procmail functionality is in sieve scripts but they certainly seem to handle most anything that I need and so I'm not all that bothered by that. My understanding is that if you use lmtp - you cannot use procmail. I am by no means expert and it seems that your attitude might not engender many others to volunteer their time to help you understand this stuff. Since you are the administrator, it probably behooves you to check all these things out for yourself as you are the only one who can decide what works best for your setup. Craig --- Cyrus Home Page: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyruswiki.andrew.cmu.edu List Archives/Info: http://asg.web.cmu.edu/cyrus/mailing-list.html
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