Re: [aseek-users] HTdig vs aspseek

From: Dan Wilder (no email)
Date: Thu Jan 17 2002 - 14:56:00 EST


Is www.wuppertal-navigator.de is in any way related
to webcache.urz.uni-wuppertal.de?

On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 09:29:52PM -0800, mozdesigners wrote:
> AW: AW: [aseek-users] several questions to indexOk you win!
>
> I will Install Linux on my machine and compile aspseek.
>
> I guess uncle Bill lost one more client.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 6:54 AM
> Subject: AW: AW: [aseek-users] several questions to index
>
>
> i have to agree with kir.
> we have used htdig in the past on www.wuppertal-navigator.de
> in the beginning it was quite good, but now as we index over 3000 different websites with over 150.000 pages htdig was
>
> 1) far to slow, indexing needed more than two days, databases got very huge
> 2) search on the index was - compared to aspseek - very slow
> 3) as kir told, relevance was not as good as aspseek.
>
> what i really like on aspseek is the grouping function. as i said we are indexing 3000 different websites. when we used htdig
>
> it could happen that the first pages (!), means the first 10, 20 or 30 matches came from the same site, eg. when the webmaster
>
> had used meta-tags or so...
> so in this case the results were neary useless... many useres have complained about it (ok they sometimes they have mixed
>
> the search on "Wuppertaler Internetseiten" (pages from/about wuppertal) and search on our "Branchenbuch" (yellow pages)).
>
> with aspseek you can group the results, so - in the example - you only get two entries in the result page even if the site
>
> matches much more pages...
>
> there is one thing i miss with aspseek: the fact that with htdig you could restrict your searches to subfolders. in aspseek
>
> you have to setup "subsets" for this. you can't just restrict to any given subdir.... maybe i sometime find the time to patch
>
> the sources.....
>
> mfg
>
> Markus Rietzler
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>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Kir Kolyshkin [mailto:]
> Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2002 12:22
> An:
> Betreff: Re: AW: [aseek-users] several questions to index
>
> mozdesigners wrote:
> >
> > Ok
> >
> > Almost everything you said is true! :)
> > But htdig has a good spider.
>
> Please tell us more about it...
>
> > But let's talk about compiling Aspseek.
>
> Just use Linux.
>
> > I have another question. Is it possible to run an emulator or
> > something else to compile this tool.
> >
> > When I use cygwin it returns this error:
> >
> > checking for Cygwin environment... no
> > checking for mingw32 environment... no
> > checking for executable suffix... configure: error: installation or
> > configuration problem: compiler cannot create executables.
> >
> > I don't know why this error occurs, because when I compile other programs
> > like I htdig for example this didn't happen.
> > If you know someone who compiled this using cygwin , u know what to
> > do....
> >
> > That's all.......
> >
> > > > Another question: why are you using Aspseek and not ht:/ Dig ??
> > >
> > > Well, just because we wrote it :-0
> > >
> > > Actually aspseek was written because ht://Dig is just not capable enough.
> > > For example, ht://Dig can't search for phrases, can't index and search
> > > 10M documents fast, don't do excerpts, its relevance is lower (that
> > > means results produced are much less relevant than those of aspseek).
> > > There are a number of other shortcomings in ht://Dig as well; I believe
> > > users who tried both engines will tell you more.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Alexander F Avdonkin" <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:54 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: AW: [aseek-users] several questions to index
> > > >
> > > > > ASPseek doesn't work under Windows
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > mozdesigners ?????(?):
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any other free compiler available for win 32 ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From:
> > > > > > To:
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 6:16 AM
> > > > > > Subject: AW: AW: [aseek-users] several questions to index
> > > > > > cygwin is for win32 i use a linux box, so i have used
> > > > > > gcc.... Markus Rietzler
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> > > > > > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > Von: mozdesigners
> > > > > > [mailto:]
> > > > > > Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2002 00:53
> > > > > > An:
> > > > > > Betreff: Re: AW: [aseek-users] several questions
> > > > > > to indexDear mr Markus Rietzler, I would like to
> > > > > > know what program didi you used to compile
> > > > > > aspseek? Cygwin isn't a good compiler! :(
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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